So I’m the type of person who will NOT take my car to the dealer. All DIY maintenance and if I don’t have the equipment for it I will buy or borrow it and watch youtube videos and do it myself. I have come to the conclusion it’s better to go to the dealership to get keys rather than ebay and a locksmith or DIY. I will roughly explain the process of how Xhorse VVDI2 Commander the key making/programming is.
I just bought a 2012 528i and it came with one key. I wanted another one but I HATE going to dealers for anything. It’s always at least 50% more expensive and I leave feeling like a chump being taken advantage of. I searched high and low for people in the LA area that can program a virgin key fob from ebay and cut the slide out key. Cutting it is not a big deal but programming it is.
So BMW has a pretty interesting system for authorizing keys. There’s a module under the instrument cluster called the CAS4 module. I don’t know what it stands for but the two functions that I know about it are keeping the mileage of the car and authorizing key fobs to work. It comes from the factory with 10 pre-authorized key fobs setup on it. The car is also has two fobs with it when it leaves the factory. Those take up slot 1 and slot 2. The other 8 fobs are not made yet but the car knows when it sees those keys that it’s authorized to start and unlock with them. It requires the key to be synced but other than that they keys are ready to go as soon as you sync them using the process of holding it against the steering column like in the many other threads on this website. BMW is the only place that knows what keys are authorized. When you go to the dealer and buy another key they send an order to some BMW place in NJ that can look up that highly secretive information and make a key. They go down the list until you get to 10 keys then you need a new CAS4 module (about $900). You then have to get it programmed including transferring the mileage over from your old module. You probably have to get the driver door and center console lock cylinder rekeyed too. I’m not sure if the old keys get deactivated when new keys are activated. Maybe someone else knows.
The 2nd method bypasses all the pre-authorized system that BMW has in place. You can get a virgin key fob off of ebay or at a locksmith and they can reprogram the CAS4 module. It is quite the ordeal because you have to override the memory on it with programming tools. If you have a hiccup in the transfer or transfer the wrong file you can brick it. I’m not sure if the dealer can fix it after. Maybe but maybe you have to get a new one. They have several different hardware/software setups that can do this. They each cost several thousand dollars and have a very steep learning curve. I’ve seen BMW Explorer, VVDI2 commander BMW, FVDI2, or a R270 programmer. They can also be used to change the mileage.
VVDI2 being used with Xhorse. It involves soldering hires directly to the CAS4 module. Not for the faint of heart. Apparently there’s a way to do it through the OBDII port but I don’t have any more info on that.
That’s the only way I know of for getting new keys to work with your BMW. I could not get anyone in the Los Angeles area to offer to program the key for less than $500. Why not get it from a dealer and do it the right way for that kind of money?
I called several dealers and they all wanted from $300-$500 to order a fob and cut the metal key even though it all comes from the same place in NJ and they don’t have to do anything except put in the order. I actually had a dealer give me a number for BMW USA to call or order the key from and it will be delivered to the dealership so they can verify the registration and my ID when I pick it up. BMW USA wanted $150 for it and they said I could probably sync it myself but I should not be charged anything by the dealer unless I have them do the syncing. The number is 1-888-575-5397 and is only for California residents for some reason.
I hope this can help someone. I spend half a day doing this research and calling many locksmiths and dealers. I understand that I don’t know exactly how this system works but I wrote this post up to the best of my knowledge. In your situation it still might be better to go to a locksmith and have them program your key. It might be cheaper elsewhere in the country to do that since there is not much demand for method 2 in California because of the BMW USA key hotline. If I was in NYC or so I would probably send my CAS4 module to the same guy who sells the keys on ebay since he offers the service for $250. It does not make economical sense for me to have a key made outside of the proper channels here in CA. If you find any mistakes please let me know and I will be happy to fix the post.
If you do decide to try and DIY, here’s a website that will probably help.
It’s a good info and good write up. Thanks to dear spudsmac at bimmerfest.com forum.
OBDSTAR X300M Specially for Odometer Adjustment
Interested in AUTEL MaxiDAS DS808 but have no idea what it tested Yes or No. You must read this post, it includes mainly how to use MaxiDAS DS808, one-by-one display its service functions, take Sedan 2012 for example to show how to read clear trouble codes & read live data, etc.
Here lots pictures display how deep AUTEL DS808 can access to the vehicles.
Generally speaking, it weights 788 g not too heavy although, the design is user-friendly, it comes with a stand behind the machine. It runs fast from one interface to another one.
Let’s go.
Part 1: Overview AUTEL MaxiDAS DS808:
AUTEL MaxiDAS DS808 service functions include:
Oil reset
EPB
TPMS
BMS
Brake bleed
DPF
Immo keys
injector
SAS
Suspension
Throttle
WIN DR ROOF
Seats
Odometer
Lang change
DS808 vehicle compatibility: 80 vehicle makes from US, Asia and Europe
Click on the “Function Viewer” on the DS808 desktop to check the workable Brand/Model/Year shown as below. (Or click on https://www.auteltech.com/, register & login, choose “Support & Updates”, then “Vehicle coverage”, input “DS808” to search for the newest vehicle compatibility.)
Here Autel DS808 MaxiFix (New feature compare DS708)
Here Autel DS808 Shop Manager (New feature compare DS708)
incl. vehicle history, workshop information and customer manager.
Here Autel DS808 Data Manager (New feature compare DS708)
Here DS808 settings incl. update
Part 2: How to use Autel DS808 to read & clear trouble codes and read live data.
Take vehicle 2012 Sedan for example.
Scan VIN
Select Vehicle type – vehicle year (2012) – Sedan
Vehicle Engine
Click on “Diagnosis”
Auto scan and read out faults i.e air conditioning and Central electronics.
Select “Trouble codes”, read it and clear it.
Read live data
Done.
More functions to be continued…
Hope this post helps you know what AUTEL MaxiDAS DS808 tested yes.